Legislature(2011 - 2012)BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)

04/07/2011 09:00 AM Senate COMMUNITY & REGIONAL AFFAIRS


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09:08:01 AM Start
09:08:24 AM SB45
09:32:34 AM Adjourn
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+= SB 45 COASTAL MANAGEMENT PROGRAM TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 45(CRA) Out of Committee
               SB  45-COASTAL MANAGEMENT PROGRAM                                                                            
9:08:24 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR OLSON announced the consideration of SB 45.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:08:36 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR ELLIS [moved  to adopt the committee  substitute (CS) for                                                               
SB 45( ), labeled 27-GS1965\B,  as the working document.] Hearing                                                               
no objection, version B was before the committee.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:09:01 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR OLSON,  commented that  a lot of  testimony has  been heard                                                               
from  coastal  districts  on  issues   with  the  Alaska  Coastal                                                               
Management  Program (ACMP).  He noted  that the  Senate Community                                                               
and Regional Affairs committee (SCRA)  heard similar testimony in                                                               
2007 [25th Alaska State Legislature]  with the introduction of SB
161  and  in  2009  [26th  Alaska  State  Legislature]  with  the                                                               
introduction  of  SB  4.  He  noted  that  these  previous  bills                                                               
attempted to improve the coastal  districts' participation in the                                                               
program and both bills were forwarded  from SCRA with a "do pass"                                                               
recommendation. He explained that SB  45 has many provisions from                                                               
earlier   bills  and   includes   the   recommendations  of   the                                                               
Legislative Audit Division  and many of the  suggestions from the                                                               
2008  evaluation by  the United  States Department  of Commerce's                                                               
Office of Ocean and Coastal Resource Management.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:09:44 AM                                                                                                                    
DAVID  SCOTT, Staff  to Senator  Donny Olson,  said version  B is                                                               
very different than the original  bill, proposed by the governor.                                                               
He noted that the governor's  provisions are also included in the                                                               
CS. He explained that version  B does three things: establishes a                                                               
Coastal   Policy   Board,    eliminates   the   designated   area                                                               
requirement, and  includes various  process changes  to alleviate                                                               
some  of the  coastal districts'  concerns and  frustrations that                                                               
currently exist with the program.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
He continued by providing a sectional analysis of version B:                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Section 1 extends the Alaska  Coastal Management Program to 2017.                                                               
He added that this extension was proposed by the governor.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Section 2 establishes the Alaska Coastal Policy Board.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Section  3  requires an  annual  report  from the  Department  of                                                               
Natural  Resources (DNR),  which  would  update the  department's                                                               
progress in drafting and adopting regulations to ACMP.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Section 4  adds the Alaska  Coastal Policy Board to  the entities                                                               
that DNR can work and consult with.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Section 5 states  that DNR must provide  planning and consistency                                                               
review data  to coastal resource  districts and  annually solicit                                                               
issues for discussion from the Alaska Costal Policy Board.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Section  6  states  that  if DNR  provides  funds  which  include                                                               
restrictions on  how the funds are  to be spent, it  will specify                                                               
the   state  statute   or   federal   regulation  requiring   the                                                               
restriction.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Section  7 requires  that a  district's  costal management  plans                                                               
must not conflict with statewide standards.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Section 8 requires that the  enforceable policies of a district's                                                               
management plan  apply to all the  land and water. He  noted that                                                               
this  is  the "heart"  of  getting  rid  of the  designated  area                                                               
requirement.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Section 9  retains the  Department of  Environmental Conservation                                                               
(DEC)  Carve-out. He  explained  that it  also  changes the  term                                                               
"areas of  the coast  that merit  special attention"  to "special                                                               
management areas".                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
He  explained that  if  a  coastal district  submits  a plan  for                                                               
approval and  DNR does not accept  it, the plan would  then go to                                                               
the Alaska  Coastal Policy  Board for review.  Section 10  and 11                                                               
lay out that process.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Section 12 requires DNR to approve  a coastal district plan if it                                                               
does  not conflict  with statewide  standards or  the enforceable                                                               
policies do not duplicate federal or state law.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Section 13  requires the  department to  allow members  of either                                                               
the governing body of a  coastal district or the coastal resource                                                               
service areas to participate in the consistency reviews.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Section 14 states that the  commissioners of Alaska Department of                                                               
Fish and  Game, DEC,  and DNR  conduct elevations  of consistency                                                               
determinations.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Section 15  specifies that  the 90-day  consistency determination                                                               
is suspended if there is an elevation.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Section  16 defines  a "reviewing  entity"  as one  of the  three                                                               
resource agencies.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Section 17 requires that modifications  to a coastal plan may not                                                               
be inconsistent with the statewide standards.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Section 18 defines "elevation" and "special management area".                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Section  19  includes a  sunset  for  the Alaska  Coastal  Policy                                                               
Board.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Section 20 changes  the definition of "area  which merits special                                                               
attention" to "special management area".                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Section 21  includes standard transition provisions  for a board,                                                               
which can be seen throughout the legislation.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Section 22  provides that  if SB  45 does not  become law  by the                                                               
sunset date and the program terminates, that it may be revived.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Section 23-25 includes conditional sunset language.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Section 26 includes an immediate effective date.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:15:52 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MENARD noted that she is  happy to see that the version B                                                               
addresses  the  concerns  of   her  constituents,  in  particular                                                               
reinstating  the  Alaska  Coastal  Policy Board.  She  turned  to                                                               
Section 13  on page 11, lines  10-11, of the CS  which deals with                                                               
public  notice  and comment.  She  emphasized  the importance  of                                                               
public  notices  being  published  in  local  areas  affected  as                                                               
opposed  to only  on the  internet. She  asked if  this has  been                                                               
discussed.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SCOTT  replied  that  the  language in  this  section  is  a                                                               
duplicate of  the language in  the bill  passed by the  House, HB
106.  He  noted that  a  fairly  lengthy discussion  occurred  on                                                               
getting notices and  information out to communities  in the House                                                               
Resources Standing Committee.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON commented  that in rural Alaska  there isn't internet                                                               
and the  only way to  get these meetings  posted is in  the local                                                               
newspaper.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MENARD reiterated the importance  of having these notices                                                               
properly advertised.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  ELLIS turned  to  Section 18  on page  13.  He asked  if                                                               
"elevation" is  a term of art  in this field  or if it is  a word                                                               
that was  made up and  defined in statute  in order to  achieve a                                                               
goal with regard to this legislation.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. SCOTT replied that it is  both. He explained that the crux of                                                               
ACMP  is  the  consistency  revision.  The  state  reviews  these                                                               
consistencies and  if there is  an issue  from either one  of the                                                               
three  commissioners of  the resource  departments  or a  coastal                                                               
district, then, at that time, it becomes an elevated issue.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:20:09 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR OLSON asked Mr. Scott to explain the fiscal notes.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. SCOTT  replied that there  are [four] fiscal notes:  one from                                                               
DNR,  two from  DEC, and  one from  SCRA. He  explained that  the                                                               
fiscal note from the committee  reflects what has happened in the                                                               
operating  budget [HB  106].  He explained  that  the Senate  has                                                               
withdrawn  funding for  the program  pending the  passage of  [HB
108], currently in conference committee.  He continued that DNR's                                                               
fiscal note (Fiscal Note Number 1)  for FY2012 is zero and $4.691                                                               
million for the  following five years. He explained  that for the                                                               
committee's  fiscal note  he took  out  the zero  for FY2012  and                                                               
replaced it with $4.691 million.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:21:53 AM                                                                                                                    
JOE BALASH, Deputy Commissioner,  Department of Natural Resources                                                               
(DNR),  said  the  governor  offered a  clean  extension  of  the                                                               
program for six years on this  particular bill, and this would be                                                               
DNR's preference in moving forward  on ACMP. He explained that at                                                               
this stage  in the  process, DNR supports  moving the  bill along                                                               
and continuing  reviews in  order to see  what the  final product                                                               
will ultimately look like.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
He explained  that, with regard  to Senator Menard's  question on                                                               
public notice,  not every community  has a newspaper. He  said to                                                               
ensure that  communities are notified,  notices can  be published                                                               
either in  the local newspaper  or online with notices  posted in                                                               
three public places  in the community. He added  that nothing has                                                               
been changed by the provisions on page 11 of version B.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MENARD said  ACMP is  slated to  have 33  employees. She                                                               
asked whether this is an adequate number.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BALASH  replied  the  fiscal   note  that's  been  developed                                                               
reflects  the  status-quo,  plus any  additional  personnel  that                                                               
might be  necessary to support  increased activities  and reviews                                                               
that will  be necessary.  He explained  that, for  example, there                                                               
will be a  significant workload in supporting  the Alaska Coastal                                                               
Policy Board and  its meetings and activities. He  noted that DNR                                                               
needs to  make sure that it  understands what the rules  are. For                                                               
example, if  the department must  supply districts  with hardcopy                                                               
duplications for a  district it will be  more expensive; however,                                                               
if DNR has the latitude to  do so electronically the cost will be                                                               
reduced.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:25:31 AM                                                                                                                    
FRANK  KELTY, Board  Chairman,  Aleutians  West Coastal  Resource                                                               
Service Area  (AWCRSA), said  AWCRSA wants  ACMP to  move forward                                                               
and  it is  very important  to the  communities in  the Aleutians                                                               
West. He  noted that  the board  passed a  resolution in  2010 in                                                               
support of  the reauthorization  of the  plan. He  continued that                                                               
the  board also  supports  the inclusion  of  the Alaska  Coastal                                                               
Policy Board so  long as it has a meaningful  role. He added that                                                               
the House's  version [CSHB 106(RES)]  does not do this.  He spoke                                                               
to his involvement  with the policy board in past  years. He said                                                               
AWCRSA believes that the policy board  did a good job in the past                                                               
and gave  residents of  the area  an opportunity  to weigh  in on                                                               
issues when there were concerns.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON  noted that there will  be plenty of time  for review                                                               
of the CS and opportunities for public testimony in the future.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:29:09 AM                                                                                                                    
BILL  JEFFRESS,   Alaska  Miners   Association,  said   that  the                                                               
association  is  still   looking  for  the  program   to  have  a                                                               
predictable process. He  noted that once the  association is able                                                               
to  review the  CS  it will  form  a position  as  to whether  to                                                               
support it. He  cautioned that it is where the  "rubber meets the                                                               
road that  really makes or  breaks a program." He  explained that                                                               
in  implementing some  of these  policies, it  is how  it is  put                                                               
together  and implemented  that  will really  affect the  program                                                               
overall.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:31:22 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR OLSON closed public testimony.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:31:36 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. SCOTT  said that a  lot of work has  been put into  this bill                                                               
and the  sunset is  coming up  this session  so something  has to                                                               
happen.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON  thanked the House  for all of  the work it  put into                                                               
this issue as well.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:32:09 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  ELLIS  moved to  report  CSSB  45(  ), version  B,  from                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations  and attached  fiscal                                                               
note(s). There  being no objection,  CSSB 45(CRA) moved  from the                                                               
Senate Community and Regional Affairs Standing Committee..                                                                      

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